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	<title>Comments on: On Privilege and Skin: Don&#8217;t avoid me&#8212;I genuinely want to talk</title>
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		<title>By: diegonomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>diegonomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece was a little off the curve for you, Aaryn, in the sense that I felt your feelings are hurt and you are ordinarily pretty assertive.

Upon retrospect, I think you nailed it, since the youngsters at UCSD are acting out the way people do, and if you get assertive they just feed into it. I want to say its a mountain made out of a molehill, but honestly, UCSD only has 2% African Americans, and I can see where these stunts are bound to upset them. I would not like it if these stunts- I can&#039;t believe UCSD has genuine KKK- were to cause some of those few black students to lose their ambition, and suffer educationally. So its good that people have been demonstrating and showing some support for these students. I wish them all the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece was a little off the curve for you, Aaryn, in the sense that I felt your feelings are hurt and you are ordinarily pretty assertive.</p>
<p>Upon retrospect, I think you nailed it, since the youngsters at UCSD are acting out the way people do, and if you get assertive they just feed into it. I want to say its a mountain made out of a molehill, but honestly, UCSD only has 2% African Americans, and I can see where these stunts are bound to upset them. I would not like it if these stunts- I can&#8217;t believe UCSD has genuine KKK- were to cause some of those few black students to lose their ambition, and suffer educationally. So its good that people have been demonstrating and showing some support for these students. I wish them all the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  I get the &quot;you&#039;re oversensitive&quot; all the time.  Especially from teachers and other parents.  That&#039;s fun - when everyone dismisses my concerns with a pat on the shoulder and a reminder that the lil&#039; darlings are all colorblind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  I get the &#8220;you&#8217;re oversensitive&#8221; all the time.  Especially from teachers and other parents.  That&#8217;s fun &#8211; when everyone dismisses my concerns with a pat on the shoulder and a reminder that the lil&#8217; darlings are all colorblind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rechelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rechelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fully acknowledge that we are still a long long way from any thing remotely resembling a truly equal society for all the races.  I hope some recent studies on the benefit of talking about race in the classroom beginning at a young age being a very positive thing for kids will have some far reaching impact for generations to come.  Thanks for writing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fully acknowledge that we are still a long long way from any thing remotely resembling a truly equal society for all the races.  I hope some recent studies on the benefit of talking about race in the classroom beginning at a young age being a very positive thing for kids will have some far reaching impact for generations to come.  Thanks for writing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, did you write this to make me feel better? I have felt so discouraged lately because of everything you just said. The unwillingness to be uncomfortable, the constant &#039;yeah, but&#039; when I say (again) that being colorblind isn&#039;t the answer and actually hurts.

A lot of this is going on in my livejournal where I have written SO many times about practical ways to recognize and combat racism in parenting. A long time reader of my journal responded recently to another blog I linked (a story about parents excusing racially insensitive behavior) with &#039;Ok, this bugs me because she just stated the problem, not the solution. Could you provide some links that show me what to do?&#039;

I reminded her of the dozens of entries I have written that include ideas, links, books, etc. Told her again about websites.

Today I wrote a long entry on how to talk to your kids about race, it&#039;s the first in a series. Near the beginning I said if they want this they can&#039;t expect it to fall in their lap.

Tomorrow is another day but right now I am tired of being expected to shoot this stuff in their veins if I want it to get in.

Anyway, thanks for this, Aaryn. We don&#039;t agree on everything but I feel you on these issues for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, did you write this to make me feel better? I have felt so discouraged lately because of everything you just said. The unwillingness to be uncomfortable, the constant &#8216;yeah, but&#8217; when I say (again) that being colorblind isn&#8217;t the answer and actually hurts.</p>
<p>A lot of this is going on in my livejournal where I have written SO many times about practical ways to recognize and combat racism in parenting. A long time reader of my journal responded recently to another blog I linked (a story about parents excusing racially insensitive behavior) with &#8216;Ok, this bugs me because she just stated the problem, not the solution. Could you provide some links that show me what to do?&#8217;</p>
<p>I reminded her of the dozens of entries I have written that include ideas, links, books, etc. Told her again about websites.</p>
<p>Today I wrote a long entry on how to talk to your kids about race, it&#8217;s the first in a series. Near the beginning I said if they want this they can&#8217;t expect it to fall in their lap.</p>
<p>Tomorrow is another day but right now I am tired of being expected to shoot this stuff in their veins if I want it to get in.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for this, Aaryn. We don&#8217;t agree on everything but I feel you on these issues for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie @ Mel, A Dramatic Mommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie @ Mel, A Dramatic Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, (from my own experiences only) I can concur that the idea of always being aware how you come off to others, of being &quot;too&quot; anything and making others feel at ease is part of how it is to be black. I hope things are different for Ruby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, (from my own experiences only) I can concur that the idea of always being aware how you come off to others, of being &#8220;too&#8221; anything and making others feel at ease is part of how it is to be black. I hope things are different for Ruby.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some folks are more willing to be uncomfortable than others. This IS an uncomfortable topic even for those of us who would like to think of ourselves as some how above all of that. I know that I am ignorant about a great many things. I have asked or said insensitive things in my life (quite possibly to you) that came from a naive but well meaning place. In the pursuit of trying to understand I have asked stupid questions or asked reasonable questions but made it weird because I tip-toed around the uncomfy parts. 

Those conversations have to happen though. Those of us who are willing to be uncomfortable (no matter what race) have to do that to take the sting out of it over time. Sometimes there is a break down in the communication though where neither side is willing to attribute positive motives.

While there are those whose hearts cannot be changed and they are mean spirited, ugly, stupid people and well, screw them. I think though that the majority of the tension arises because basically good people just don&#039;t always know better. The frustrating part (or one of them) is that they are afraid to admit they might be ignorant about a topic and they are afraid of what that says about them. So they miss an opportunity to learn something.

I won&#039;t avoid you Aaryn, be open and keep talking about the uncomfy stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some folks are more willing to be uncomfortable than others. This IS an uncomfortable topic even for those of us who would like to think of ourselves as some how above all of that. I know that I am ignorant about a great many things. I have asked or said insensitive things in my life (quite possibly to you) that came from a naive but well meaning place. In the pursuit of trying to understand I have asked stupid questions or asked reasonable questions but made it weird because I tip-toed around the uncomfy parts. </p>
<p>Those conversations have to happen though. Those of us who are willing to be uncomfortable (no matter what race) have to do that to take the sting out of it over time. Sometimes there is a break down in the communication though where neither side is willing to attribute positive motives.</p>
<p>While there are those whose hearts cannot be changed and they are mean spirited, ugly, stupid people and well, screw them. I think though that the majority of the tension arises because basically good people just don&#8217;t always know better. The frustrating part (or one of them) is that they are afraid to admit they might be ignorant about a topic and they are afraid of what that says about them. So they miss an opportunity to learn something.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t avoid you Aaryn, be open and keep talking about the uncomfy stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: middle-aged-woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>middle-aged-woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, aaryn. I am always looking for a way to reply to the bigots. As to being kinder to family members? Well, life is too short to spend it with stupid people. Some of my family, I avoid whenever possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, aaryn. I am always looking for a way to reply to the bigots. As to being kinder to family members? Well, life is too short to spend it with stupid people. Some of my family, I avoid whenever possible.</p>
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		<title>By: san</title>
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		<dc:creator>san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was, once again, eloquently stated, Aaryn.
I couldn&#039;t agree more with you.

Most people just want to live in their &quot;perfect little bubble&quot; and not deal with anything that causes them discomfort.

I&#039;ve learned - though with a different subject (mental illness) - that people are only willing to open their eyes to an obvious problem, if they&#039;re DIRECTLY affected. And with DIRECTLY, I mean, in their daily lives.
Otherwise, they just can&#039;t be bothered.

It makes me so mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was, once again, eloquently stated, Aaryn.<br />
I couldn&#8217;t agree more with you.</p>
<p>Most people just want to live in their &#8220;perfect little bubble&#8221; and not deal with anything that causes them discomfort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned &#8211; though with a different subject (mental illness) &#8211; that people are only willing to open their eyes to an obvious problem, if they&#8217;re DIRECTLY affected. And with DIRECTLY, I mean, in their daily lives.<br />
Otherwise, they just can&#8217;t be bothered.</p>
<p>It makes me so mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t avoid you, I&#039;ve been waiting for this column!  As someone who avoids confrontation, however, I don&#039;t have &quot;the talk&quot; as often as I think I should.  So THANK YOU for &quot;I don&#039;t agree with your viewpoint.&quot;  I think I can say that.

I can&#039;t not mention the book &quot;Nurtureshock&quot; here, which posits (among other things) that not talking about race, being &quot;colorblind&quot;, is the surest way to raise racists.  I&#039;m always disappointed that other white parents don&#039;t seem to value diversity as much as I do.  Talk, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t avoid you, I&#8217;ve been waiting for this column!  As someone who avoids confrontation, however, I don&#8217;t have &#8220;the talk&#8221; as often as I think I should.  So THANK YOU for &#8220;I don&#8217;t agree with your viewpoint.&#8221;  I think I can say that.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t not mention the book &#8220;Nurtureshock&#8221; here, which posits (among other things) that not talking about race, being &#8220;colorblind&#8221;, is the surest way to raise racists.  I&#8217;m always disappointed that other white parents don&#8217;t seem to value diversity as much as I do.  Talk, people!</p>
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		<title>By: MidLifeMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidLifeMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for being someone who is not only aware but willing to speak up. I think most people sleep walk through life. I am very aware that I have an easier time of it in life because I am white, because I am not poor, because I had the priviledge of getting a good education among other things. I try not to take that for granted. I wish I could be more like you at times and confront injustice head on when I encounter it. Rather than flat out disagree with someone, I am more likely to take the conversation a bit further and find out why they said X and suggest an alternative view of the situation. But sometimes just saying &quot;Wow you are so wrong about that&quot; would feel good. I am the standard bearer for moderation, for better or worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for being someone who is not only aware but willing to speak up. I think most people sleep walk through life. I am very aware that I have an easier time of it in life because I am white, because I am not poor, because I had the priviledge of getting a good education among other things. I try not to take that for granted. I wish I could be more like you at times and confront injustice head on when I encounter it. Rather than flat out disagree with someone, I am more likely to take the conversation a bit further and find out why they said X and suggest an alternative view of the situation. But sometimes just saying &#8220;Wow you are so wrong about that&#8221; would feel good. I am the standard bearer for moderation, for better or worse.</p>
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